We saw the variations in labia and inside vaginas, the ways in which we were incredibly different, and yet had something in common, too. Pilmer ordered that the children live with their father and be kept away from Livingston and his church. That upset Willow Creek leaders, who said he never had permission to lead the group, let alone do dream interpretation — a controversial practice against Willow Creek's beliefs. But a Kane County judge this summer ordered that three children be kept away from Livingston and his church.
At the Kane County trial, he said he wanted to open up a special light therapy "healing center" but hadn't yet.